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the backyard where her children play but she says not knowing initially why the camera was put there or who put it there was most unsettling unsettling indeed someone had been spying in her bedroom and on her children so of course actually the young woman decided to call and report it to the cops but there was nothing to report because as soon as she called the police department they told her that they had been the ones to install the camera to monitor people coming through the woods but the woman claimed this made no sense and she suspects they were attempting to catch her father feeding stray cats she had been on probation for doing in the past year guys this is ludicrous a surveillance state against us is growing exponentially by the day and the rationale to spy on us is becoming ever more trivial at the same time the establishment is making it harder and harder to film them it's an issue our next guest knows very well he's been arrested multiple times for his attempts to flip the camera on the cops so to talk about his experience fighting the police state and explain what rights we have i'm joined by ian freeman host of the nationally
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syndicated radio talk show free talk live and contributor to cop a walk in thank you so much for taking the time thanks for having me so you were just arrested a couple weeks ago for recording video in a public place you caught a good majority of the day on camera let's take a look at some of that footage. just because you post a sign doesn't mean you get to eliminate the freedom of the press and have you recently with a good decision so i'm just i'm asking a question i'm going to answer there is no video what you mean by the way switches are there's a video games are in this town hall now have you heard of the decision to shut off the video have you heard of the glick card you refuse you know you're using to shut off a video cam i don't know if i'm asking you have you heard of the glick decision this is ridiculous man you were here last time when i was recording so you got arrested for disorderly conduct not for filming i mean were they just trying to create a reason and explain why the goal at this. significant for incidents like this and
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others like it well sure so the glick decision was simon clerk he was an attorney in boston who was recording the police doing something awful the phone to another person and of course they arrested him for it and thankfully he's an attorney so it was easy for him to court and go all the way that supreme court and get a ruling that basically reaffirms your right as an individual to record government bureaucrats when they're on duty in any public place so that's what i was doing there at a town hall that day and the reason they charged me with disorderly conduct is because i had basically beaten them down on the whole wiretapping claim so disorderly conduct it's always been that this catchall or you know any activists doing something or anybody doing something they don't like if they don't actually have a lot of get shoot with don't go with disorderly conduct or you know resisting arrest or some other catch all they have a handful of catches and that's one of them so even we know that some states have
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tried to make laws passed to make filming illegal to film cops i mean are there any states that currently have these laws on the books preventing citizens from filming or have the courts upheld the citizen's rights here. you know i can answer there's fifty different states there are some states like illinois where it's way worse than in other states like with wiretapping laws of course some states are two party consent recording states versus one party where you know where for instance the federal law is one party and that if one person knows that there is a recording going of a conversation then it's completely legal here in new hampshire for instance the two party state where everybody must know who is connected to a conversation that it's being recorded which makes doing undercover video work you know busting a bad business or something or in this case bad bureaucrats very difficult i don't even know what the situation is in massachusetts but it was pretty clear that i wasn't you know undercover reporter. or wiretapping in any way you know
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surreptitiously or secretly recording so that's why they came after me with a disorderly conduct charge and in theory i should be able to beat it but then again the court system always tends to lean towards its own people i mean and being prosecuted by the you know by the same as are running the court and in a lot of cases are your defense attorneys i won't be accepting state attorney to defend me however i think i myself. saying yeah good point i mean every state has has different laws of course cop locked founder out of me or having to serve three months in jail for pacifically this recording a conversation trying to i mean they're recording everything that we do so when you're trying to record a conversation or try to expose some sort of corruption of course the law comes down hard on us and i just want to ask you know this technology exists now to surveil their walls cops might have the ability to bring drug sniffing dogs here neighborhood and of course trap wire i mean the extensive surveillance apparatus all across the country collectively what is the biggest problem that arises from
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the surveillance state and well the over time it's your privacy just keeps getting eroded over further and the old question that the state defenders will ask is well if you don't have anything to hide why do you care and the thing is maybe you don't have anything to hide right now but eventually they might decide to make something that you do you legal and then you will have something to hide but by a bad point it might be too late and of course you always turn that question back around on them you know these government bureaucrats that are arresting camera people left and right what is the they have to hide what are they so afraid of maybe they're afraid that people are going to see that they really are nothing more than just a criminal gang of governments nothing more than a criminal enterprise that's been very successful and that they're so brazen they can fly flags out of their offices. we saw at the oscar grant video kelly thomas i would never know and we would never hold these people accountable even though of course. they didn't really get held accountable but i mean without video and
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without filming the cops we would never know what they're doing and of course the chilling effect is really the problem with the surveillance state and you contribute a lot to cop block what rights do people have i don't think a lot of people know that they don't have to allow cops in their home they don't have to allow cops to search their car i mean where can people find out what their rights are just explain all a bit more about what people can do to fight the police state well obviously you can't lock down org is a great resource lots of good information there the folks over lecture rights also do a good job of really laying out basic rights and you don't have an obligation to answer the door when the police are there obviously they show you that on their television shows cops for instance is always going to show people answering the door and talking to them you know hollywood movies are always going to show people going to the door and talking to the police so you don't have to do what you see them do on t.v. if the cops come to your house you have no obligation to answer talk to them in any
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way shape or form if you are driving they do say you know i'm no attorney and but they say that you don't have to answer any questions beyond providing you know your license and registration if you're driving if you're sitting in the passenger seat you don't have to provide them with anything in most places that i know of so you know for instance you can't be obligated to have a driver's license on you if you are driving people think about these things and they're trained to to answer questions the police are trained to be very intimidating so when the cops tell someone to do something they tend to do it and people need to think twice before they just jump to it and obey whatever it is that they are told to do because it's our obedience that has allowed things to become the way that they are if people would stand up for the rights that they supposedly have than maybe we would actually be able to retain them but as long as people keep giving up their freedoms keep being willing to go along to get along then we'll just keep losing more of it over. time is that they just with
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a little way salute what about just walking around i mean when the cops stop you and ask you you know do you have your idea on you and kind of bully you know that do you you just said you don't really need to carry an id or show cops an idea right and i were in some states claim that you have to tell them who you are in pain quire and i don't know which states those are and obviously like i said there's a litany of them but they can't possibly obligate you to have an i.d. because it would require you to be you know going down to some government agency and submit yourself to their id process you should be able to walk from point a to point b. without carrying identification but that doesn't mean they won't ask you and a car can stop you anywhere and ask you something just like any other human being can stop you on the street and ask you something but you don't have an obligation to answer their questions in fact one of the first things you can do is ask them questions in return you know the old sales outages that he asked the questions of swimming and so if you ask them
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a question am i being detained they usually have to answer that question and if you're not being detained then ask in my free to go and then get out of there and go on with your day and be productive good really good point for activists to really get that firsthand and i've been detained if i'm not you can leave really important thank you so much for breaking all that down it is getting more pervasive and we really do need to know our rights most important thing we can know in one e-mail i'm sorry continue because they one of the other most important things you can do is to get together with other people who think like you do so. has the ability to you know kind of syndicate itself if you will or duplicate to other areas that are different chapters around the country but there's a good group of them up here in new hampshire as part of the free state project where liberty minded people are all you know we're collecting in one place so we can be even more effective with our activists and not web sites free state project dot org absolutely everyone check out locked out or free state project are going to
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go down to new hampshire and check it out i heard there's a lot of cool stuff going on there and freemen host of the nationally syndicated talk show free talk live and thank you so much for coming on it's been a pleasure thank you. if you like what you see so far go to our youtube channel youtube dot com slash breaking the set and subscribe to our facebook page at facebook dot com class reg in the set now i know it is going to hate it and troll going to troll but if you're intelligent feel free to write me and let me know what you think and if you're wondering about what i'm doing or bitching about when i'm not on air follow me on twitter at abby martin i took a break from my preaching for now it's a turn to hear about a long list of allegations against defense contractors and the u.s. government's quarter of an puti for war criminals. wealthy british style. that's not on the president's right in the mornings with.
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years ago president obama gave an unprecedented speech in cairo aimed at undoing an era of brought relations with the muslim world in a speech the newly elected president projected his desire to turn the chapter on the past and embark on a new era of mutual understanding diplomacy and friendship and while many in the
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middle east were hopeful their optimism began to simmer as the arab spring turned to a bitter fall it became evident that palestine would remain ignored so now that obama's been elected for a second term why. that's the sentiment in the middle east and what actions can we expect from the president now that he's not seeking reelection to talk about all this and more i'm joined by our correspondent rima. thank you so much for coming in thank you for having me so really i was reading that many egyptians are relieved that obama got elected i want to read you this tweet. is a big sigh of relief from egypt the alternative was just too awful to consider do you think that's a sentiment for many that are just so grateful that it's the lesser evil other people think that way it was a choice but we and a bad person and a worse a lot of them just think that way however i went through a lot of tweets from the arab world a lot of them just said it doesn't really matter it doesn't really matter if obama
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got elected or romney got elected they are just two faces or two heads of the same quien and the foreign policy of the us is not going to change just because we have obama in power or we have romney i love that a lot of them were. very disappointed with obama that they think having either romney or obama is not just going to be any worse than the past four years. i couldn't agree more or less talk about israel you know a lot of people were talking to you during the lead up to the election the saying well here's the lesser of two evils you have romney who would definitely attack iran and then you have obama who would attack iran i personally never saw any indication that obama wouldn't attack iran i mean he said no option was off the table he said that he would draw a hard line he's been catering to netanyahu they've been competing for who can you know cater toward him more so i mean really what do you think about that like just the whole israel situation what do you think should have happened with iran and was
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there really between the two romney was not going to attack iran if there was an attack on iran it would be either romney or obama it does not have it it's not the president who is going to take a decision. like that it seems at least in the case of iran because when when romney was talking about iran he was talking about harsher out sanctions just what obama's doing right now i don't think either one of is if he's going to go. to start a war against or to want to wage a war against iran it's not necessarily obama or romney if that decision is made that decision is made it's not romney is not going to start it obama is not going to start it there just the same thing that you know there's a little bit of. you know it was here for romney just because romney is much more closer to the red line and he wanted to i i. was i did a lot of reading about this seems as if people have mixed feelings about. feels
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right now that obama got reelected we have to mention that under obama's administration israel got more military aid and then under any other administration and they know that they realize that so for them to set the bar even higher wanting you asked to go. to another war just because they think that the red line should be here and there and i think even not yet or himself believes that this is probably too much let's just give it a shot try and if it were out there yeah i don't want to or it doesn't work that it doesn't work it is amazing that the barge continues to be set higher and higher in terms of lobbying the money the military support. let's let's shift to syria i mean r.t. just an exclusive interview with the. assad do you think that obama was waiting for reelection to really deal with syria i mean it's kind of something we can't ignore
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. the international community kind of has its eyes on the country what do you think's going to happen now that the reelection i think the arab world is divided over this some people say obama's not going to change his policies on syria he did have a chance. before didn't use it he's not going to change now he has a lot more at stake at home to take care of. the americans are wary of another war they're just not going to do another war for syria or in syria however a lot of people think that no the u.s. was just waiting for the elections to be over to store not necessarily a buffer zone but maybe more military aid to the opposition not necessarily again through the u. wow but through maybe other countries like saudi arabia qatar turkey you know any player on the ground so i mean we don't know exactly what's going to happen but we we do have indications cameron the prime minister of england right after the
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election the reelection of obama was talking about a new plan for syria does that mean that they're going to do something in syria you know more probably more military aid again we don't know again this is something that's dividing the world they just cannot see a clear policy from obama towards the middle east. just that he's not going to start that i mean he's going to die there just like gadhafi and we heard them talk about the no fly zones there's a lot of talk a lot of rhetoric being thrown around so it will be very interesting to see how that plays out let's talk about palestinian statehood palestine a seeking of statehood israel building settlements you know twelve hundred. completely just his unabashed lawlessness just moving forward with these settlements do you think anything is going to change now that obama is reelected i mean a lot of people are hopeful thinkin oh maybe now that he doesn't have one eye on
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the elections. elections and another eye on domestic issues basically economy maybe he can do something about the palestinian israeli especially because he was so enthusiastic in the first. he just had so many hopes and he just laid them out in cairo everywhere honestly i believe that he probably realizes there is nothing that he can do about it not when not now is in power not when lieberman is in power not when they simply continue to build settlements to. even put more checkpoints between cities there simply dividing the country making it impossible for the palestinians to create there to create their own country or establish their own country and the bit at the un this whale is a readiness for and the palestinians they have the tax money that they're withholding and they can do even or take more measures against the palestinians and it is obama willing to maybe exercise pressure as well that's something that
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a lot of people think well you know you have to lobby you have the congress you have a lot of players here not enough to not going to be the case not in the you know not in the first year at least was just seems like obama could at least condemn the fact that israel is violating international law by building an encroaching on post and then just like the rest of the international community france and and all these countries are saying we don't we condemn this we don't agree with this so for obama to just kind of sit back and just totally ally himself with israel is just i think an insult really and you know let's see if anything changes i fear that it won't hope. things do move forward thank you so much for coming on the really push your time thank you.
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all right guys i want to get serious i want to talk to you about torture but more importantly the impunity for torturers recently i learned about two u.s. military contractors who claim that u.s. forces detained and tortured them in two thousand and six after they blew the whistle on their employer for illegally running guns the two have since filed a lawsuit against former secretary of defense donald rumsfeld claiming that rumsfeld himself is the one who approved of the torture of the so-called harsh interrogation techniques used on prisoners however the seventh circuit court of appeals said that they don't have the right to sue rumsfeld or anyone else in the military chain of command for that matter now as shocking as it seems for our military to torture whistleblowers who have nothing to do with the forces we're fighting against sadly this story is not unique and u.s. forces abroad operate and knew from accountability every time we hear about rape murder torture or destruction of property it's always dismissed out of the adage
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war is hell well that's not good enough take the case of don lemon a paramedic for the defense contractor kellogg brown and root a subsidiary of good old a halliburton following a rocket attack near her living quarters in southern iraq dawn woke up covered in blood she had been raped and sodomized by an american soldier and one of her very own our colleagues said of her lawyer taking action to support her leaman was ordered by her superiors to keep quiet instead of as despicable as don lemon's cases there are countless others. like the story of jamie lee jones who was raped by multiple manager k.b.r. camp in iraq when she spoke out about the incident k.b.r. guards locked her in a shipping container and threatened to fire her if she tried to leave or tell anyone about what happened jamie finally was able to get out and filed a lawsuit against how the burn and its subsidiary now i wish i could say that this story has a happy ending but it doesn't and this is the part that really makes me sick and
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examination by army doctors showed that she had been raped both valiantly and analeigh but the rape kit suddenly disappeared after it was handed over to k.b.r. officials not only to jamie lose the case in court but k.b.r. countersued her wanting her to pay the two million dollars they spent in court fees and also for slandering their name home i'm so sorry caveat that torture rape and unlawful detainer it's bad p.r. for you you know it would be a lot easier to sympathize with k.b.r. if this was an isolated incident and if they held the rapists accountable but as we know this other lawlessness with military contractors is systematic this is just another example of the horrible nightmare that is u.s. involvement in iraq don't forget or forget who the number one for profit for the war was dick cheney who as it turns out was a former halliburton c.e.o. what a surprise now as much as obama would like to have everyone believe that the war in
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iraq is over his left behind a huge contingent from the state department along with tens of thousands of armed private contractors who operate above the law but seriously can you blame the people that the u.s. government hires when the us government itself was the one approving torture and creating a legal framework for it people are hurt their lives are ruined forever and all they want is justice but they won't get it because what we're left with today is a culture of impunity where our president has declared that looking forward is more important than. restoring the rule of law and holding the war criminals accountable centrally what obama has done is normalize this criminality. all the cases and with the government just passing the buck this missing them is just a few bad apples but when the courts are throwing out lawsuits against the people that authorize torture and abuse what we're left with is a two tiered justice system who's left to decide who's to blame but yeah let's just
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forget about it we've got four more years to just look forward right. i mean so the only city in europe on the host of the twenty four g. in the winter the picket. thank you. so much. thank you.
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